Misyar Marriages

You hear a lot about misyar marriages all over the Saudi media. Some people are against it and others think that it is the magical pill for all our society’s ailments. Many non Saudis have the misconception that this type of marriage is sanctioned by law and that the actual marriage contract document is different from the one used for conventional Saudi marriages. Well that is just not true. There is only one marriage contract document and whether the marriage is conventional or misyar depends on a verbal agreement. The marriage contract itself looks somewhat like a passport. So what are miyar marriages? Well to answer that you first have to understand our regular marriages. First off a conventional marriage means that the groom pays the bride a dowry ranging between 8000 dollars and can go up to 27000 dollars depending on the bride’s tribe, age, beauty…etc. A government approved sheikh is brought to the house and writes up the marriage in a big marriage notebook. Everyone signs it and then it is sent to the bride for signature. Islamically, the sheikh must make sure that the bride agrees to the marriage by asking her himself. But this is not done in many households. The sheikh does not see or speak to the bride. The bride’s father or any other male relative represents her and speaks for her. When it comes to the dowry, it is considered impolite to have it written in the marriage contract, even though there is a little blank for it. The groom waits a couple of days and then goes to the Saudi courts to get the document. Then the groom also has to ensure that they have a place to stay, which could be a couple of rooms at his parent’s house, an apartment, or a villa. And most importantly they tell everyone about their marriage, usually at a big wedding party. Finally impregnation is expected within the first three years.

With a misyar marriage, you still have a sheikh and he comes to the house with the big notebook and does his thing. But with this marriage the bride makes a lot of compromises that are agreed upon verbally prior to the shiekh’s arrival. She still gets a dowry but the marriage itself is considered a secret. Only close relative are allowed to know. When it comes to the love nest, that is most commonly the bride’s own bedroom at her parent’s home. Sometimes, especially for richer grooms, an apartment is rented for the bride. The husband can come and go as he pleases and does not have to spend nights over unless he wants to. Having children is discouraged in these marriages. And they are designed just so the husband can divorce anytime without obligations.

Why would a woman put herself in this position? It differs from one to the other but ultimately it boils down to these reasons:

  • She’s a divorcee or spinster and unlikely to get a better offer. These women tell themselves that he’ll love me and want me as a full wife once he gets to know me.
  • Lower class households that quite frankly pimp out their daughters and use the dowry kind of like a prostitution fee.
  • The groom is really rich and made an offer that just can’t be refused. Rich practicing Muslim men do misyar out of fear of their first wife and at the same time they can tell themselves it’s hallal (Islamically sanctioned)

I know a woman who went into a misyar marriage four year ago. She’s been divorced twice before then and approaching forty. Fortunately it worked out for her and a couple of months back her misyar husband bought her a house and publically acknowledged her.

 

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  1. The_True_Man

    Hi

    It is interesting to know what happens at various societies…

    By the way, you said the Governmental Sheikh comes to house and writes up a contract. So is the marriage accepted by the Government ? is it legal ?

    regards
    The_True_Man

  2. A

    Although I don’t like this kind of a marriage, but I know of a fourth reason that some people are satisfied with:

    (4) An independent woman with her own high paying job, car (with driver of course), and everything she needs. She doesn’t like to live with someone or to commit. But she would like to have a husband who shares her same views.

  3. joelmartin

    I just found your blog via a link to my own blog. I have studied Islam quite a bit, and I’m fascinated by your region of the world. I wouldn’t mind working in Dubai someday.

  4. Faisal

    How can I find a misyar wife?

  5. al ajam

    asalaamo alaykum

    i am interested in a misyar marriage how do i go about doing so? the faact of the matter is i want a saudi wife but as i am a dforgeiner i feel that the only way i can get a saudi wife is via a misyar marriage its sad really as we are all muslim also i would not want to use the poor lady just for my desires i want to cherish and love her so dooes anyone please have any advice?

  6. I am interested ,in two or three Misyar marraige,i am working as abusiness development manager in Pakistan and has worked in Dubai for 4 years as a Manager Marketing also worked as a Manager Marketing in Abu Dhabi.

    I need a good women it does not mater A divorce or a widower i need a partner how would act likea women with me and at times be nice and understanding with me life is short so let not waist time and do some thing.my cell is 00 92 307 500 77 66.ajmal2u@hotmail.com,and ajmal2u@googlemail.com.

    • Sameena

      You obviously dont have a brain! Women are not just things for you to stick yourself into.

      • Ajmal

        It is a question of bringing a divorce or a widower under your wing ….instead of them going on the street……!

      • Sandy

        You can do that without asking them to prostitute themselves.

  7. Imran

    Assalaam Alaikum,

    32 yrs male Doctor working in well known group of Hospital in Riyadh is intrested in Misyar Marraige with a women under 40, divorcee or widower can contact rash05_76@yahoo.com

  8. Feras78

    hi, I am looking also, I am based Dubai 31 old

  9. sam

    Control yourselves you perverts. Sheesh man… ever heard the line you only fall in love once and “SouLMate”? How different are men from animals if they cant keep themselves in check?

    • Ahmad

      Most muslims are very much act and behave worse than some animals when it comes down to treat women.

  10. anjum shaikh

    ha ha! Sam , u put an end to all those! btw, the write up was about how misyar marriage is being misused… this is not a dating website! please!!

  11. Imad

    i am 45y old medical doctor in uae searching for awoman for misyar marrige

    • whats wrong with u ppl?! this is blog for god’s sake! not a dating or marriage network!

    • amar

      marry someone bitch in your profession from nurse to cleaner- any “female” with a “hole- you pervert idiot doctor! or else get your wife married to someone if you can’t satisfy her!!

  12. Usman

    To my understanding, misyar marriage is “Islamicized Zina” totally against the very spirit of marriage. In Islam, and in most civilizations in most of part of the history, Marriage is an institution to harbor family, rather than merely a sexual pleasure. This misyar marriage (or Islamicized Zina) not only exploit women but also bring the man on its lowest level.

    • Baqar

      Usman, I wish you had little more time to studied Islam’s basic principles before terming Misyar as Zina.
      Take some primary classes on Islam !
      Baqar

      • Dr Ahmed

        The word misyar is purely man made issue for the the convenience of unilateral sexual pleasure and as rightly pointed out by usman as islamicized prostitution and nothing beyond it- no religious books ever mention about this cowardy act and it’s no way different from road side prostitution in a novel way. What really makes me raise my eye-bros is the religious sheiks make a silent nod to this mischievious acts. I had seen these marriages used to take place regularly on a regular time-frame basis in Iran in olden days and it’s slowly extrapolated to the present culture silently for men’s conveneince and there is marality than bliss in this relationship.

    • khalid

      Usman,100% Right

  13. yousuf

    i am looking for a misyar marraige, i am in karachi my contect no.03343683402

    • what the hell you thinkin Yousef about by
      posting ur# lol..!!!
      that topic became a spam and an ad for mysiar!
      I am totally against mesyar.. coz its purly for sexual reasons and it destroys the real core of marriage!
      Mesyar would be a great deal for playful men who don’t want to be in serious relationship!

      • Usman

        Well Said!

      • Irfan

        yup 100% satisfy with you Omaima. but i think it should be stoped in saudia.as a muslim i think so that its not good for men and women also.
        just serious relations i beleive.because i beleive that sex with out love or without romance is nothing.
        animals also do sex so what is the deffernce between human being and animals?
        thats why be a human and love somebody and marry with her.
        God Bless All Muslims.

  14. Erick

    Dear all,
    I am Europeen ( Muslim )living in Saudi Arabia.
    I would like to know if I can be married by misyar and how to do ?
    Many thanks
    Erick

    • you getta be kidding!

      • Irfan

        yup 100% satisfy with you Omaima. but i think it should be stoped in saudia.as a muslim i think so that its not good for men and women also.
        just serious relations i beleive.because i beleive that sex with out love or without romance is nothing.
        animals also do sex so what is the deffernce between human being and animals?
        thats why be a human and love somebody and marry with her.
        God Bless All Muslims.

    • zahoor

      can you contact me

  15. Zain

    Hi I am Zain from Al-Khobar. Any female interested in Misyaar can contact me at 0560=495030. But the lady should be atleast average looking

    • Usman

      Shame on you!

      • nikki

        no shame go marry ya sis or ma u zaleel

  16. Faheem

    So, my dear Brothers, we see… what happens, when we allow such things to happen. Misyar or Mataa, both are Haraam for me.

    My reason, is stated above, in the answers and drooling men contact numbers.

    We cannot keep our selves in check, Allah keeps us in check by giving us Quran and Hadices.

    Please dont get sinned (it is Zanaa in an ISLAMIC TOFFEY Rapping)

    If it is “natural” and “Saraai” Just as your self, imagine, your Widow mother or your young sister being wed by a person like you giving a Contact on web site. FEEL IT and tell me, is it HALAAL NOW???

    Allah ma HAQ.
    Fee Amman Allah

    • Muhammad Waseem

      my dear brother,it is 100% halal.dont be emotional in that way.a lady who accepts a muslim man and lives with him with respect,what is wrong in this?even the sister or mother of someone.she needs a man (a good man) to live with her as a nice life partner.in the other way,greedy and dishonest people should be away from this.may Allah subhan wa taala give a good home and good husband to every muslim lady in this world.waseem from kuwait

  17. uthman al deen nurain al nigeri

    salam
    dear bro and sis in islam,
    the fact is that this misyar is haram because it makes men able to use women and go away this is same as prostitution in islam which is not allowed at all. it is better for me to have more than one wife legally as the quran and hadiths have allowed even if they want to live in different ares than to do this act, i think we have to be carefull because people will use this to engage in prostitution and harrassment and women will be victims.

    • Muhammad Waseem

      here u r wrong my dear brother,u r not understanding the spirit behind misyar.a rich lady who doesnot require anything in the shape of money,house,car etc but only a good husband to live with him respectably.so she has right to adopt or accept any good practacing muslim man as a pure husband,what is wrong in that.even a poor man can be the husband of rich lady.a lady who has everything and doesnot need except a good husband ,she has right to do so and a man should prove himself a good husband too.May Allah subhan wa taala give us wisdom to understand it.

  18. adnan

    haw i can find a mysiar wife

  19. ahmed

    assalam. hi My name is ahmed, I am an islamic and arabic teacher in london. I am already marriad and I would also like to marry some one who wouldnt mind marrying me. if any one can help then please let me know.

    wasslam.

    take care

  20. ahmed

    by the way my email is smilybro@hotmail.com.

  21. Muhammad Khan

    Asalam,
    I want to do misyar marriage.

  22. Muhammad Ashraf

    Asalam,
    I like to marry misyar

  23. omar ibn shaykh

    Ya hallaaaa, I’m not sure if its only men who are reading this page lool. So if there are any women who are reading this and are interested in contacting me regarding this noble marriage then contact me. I’m a british Muslim and from London and I reside in Riyadh KSA. 0567333615 BB pin 2275ec37

  24. DEEN

    The site is all about Misyar marriage and the sorry plight in which the Saudi ladies are. They should be given more opportunity to meet and marry the guy whom they wish instead of tying them up with dowry.As you see with the various requests that keep cropping up, I am sure if the ladies are given a chance to choose on their own they can be happy.

  25. Faisal D.

    Hello All,

    Misyaar marriage maybe halal but everything has conditions, like in one place it is said eat and drink is an order of Allah and if you do excess in the same you have broken the law of do no exceed boundaries.

    So dear friends…..dont think Misyaar is Islamic Zina it maybe allowed, we must consult the scholars…at the same time divorce is a thing that shakes the throne of Allah.

    Be Guided always….Regards, Faisal D.

  26. Um-Harun

    assalam alykum,
    I’m a Syrian woman who married a salafi british revert.. I didn’t know that he is playful and he’s only looking for mysiar marriage so after he married me and I got pregnant he got mad and divorced me after couple of months because he married me for pleasure only, no kids and no responsbilities, I didn’t know that.
    he tried to deny his kid and he doesn’t pay child support and never calls to check on his child…
    that is why I will spread the word and say (NO TO MYSIAR MARRIAGE)as it left me devastated and depressed as a single mom with a fatherless child.
    I warn my muslim sisters against this type of modern marriages. Marriage is about sharing a life with a provider, responsible and God-fearing husband… any man seeking mysiar is not sincere and will dump and divorce you as soon as he gets bored with you.They think (WHY BUY THE COW WHEN THEY CAN GET THE MILK FOR FREE?)

    I pray to Allah to guide our scholars to reconsider the fatwa that says mysiar marriage is Halal.

    I also ask Allah to bless those respectful men who oppose the idea of mysiar marriage, may Allah grant you paradise Amen

    • Dr Ahmed

      Dear Sister,
      Atlast you rose up against misyar marriage act and make the awareness camp visible to all sisters but with a pinch of small price to pay which you could have avoided it totally beforehanded. This message should reach to every root level of the soiceity and not only that the legal system needs to be remodified and rewritten to totally abolish this practice. May I pray Allah to give you a new life with a well adjustable understanding married life again.

      • Cat

        My hope that you become educated and financially independent. This way you never have to need a husband for all the wrong reasons. Instead if you decide to have a husband it will be because you want a partner. One who will help you achieve everything you hope to achieve in your life and you can help him achieve everything in his life. A woman who cannot traverse the world and understand it cannot provide worldly and profound understanding to her children. A woman who is a slave with a slave mentality can only provide that mentality to her children. Forever bought and sold from one man to another because of ignorance and financial destitute.

  27. Roberto

    Everywhere else such “marriages” are called prostitution.

    • Ahmad

      haha….Robert, you are the man. These are sickminded mullah inventions to do the same phyical act, halal or haram, does not really matter, act is the same!

    • nikki

      only in saudi

  28. You guys have a very strange look upon how this works, and frankly, lack of knowledge regarding how the world works in this matter.

  29. M R Siddiqui

    I’m looking for the girl for misiyar in saudi arabia (medinah) contact me on my mail : rafimcsd@rediffmail.com if anybody interested

  30. khalid

    dear sir
    i am from india, working here in saudia i have question with you i want to
    marriage with saudi girl can it is possible where i contact give me complete
    information my email is siddiui@yahoo.com
    thanks

  31. khalid

    dear sir
    i am from india and i want to marraige with saudi girl can it is possible give me complete information
    thnaks

  32. Alicia

    Men are too silly to be taken seriously. And they most certainly should not be in charge of anyone nor even themselves. I say we appoint guardians for them all!

  33. Karan Davis

    Bismullah Hir Rahma Nir Raheem, Alhamdulilliha Rabil Alameen, Salamu Wa’laikum,

    Sisters why agree to Misyar marriage when there are American Muslim’s living in Kuwait looking and willing to marry Saudi sister’s who really looking for men who really follow this men fear Allah they are looking for wife who fear Allah please contact me by email you have interest my email (davis.karan@yahoo.com) send full information about you.

    Karan Davis

  34. Karan Davis

    Bismullah Hir Rahma Nir Raheem, Alhamdulilliha Rabil Alameen, Salamu Wa’laikum,

    Sisters why agree to Misyar marriage when there are American Muslim’s living in Kuwait who looking and willing to marry Saudi sister’s men who fear Allah they are looking for wife who fear Allah please contact me by email you have interest my email (davis.karan@yahoo.com) send full information about your self.

    Karan Davis

  35. umer

    I am a software engineer looking a woman for misyar marriage living in Dubai. Please contact me if someone interested in misyar marriage sahilumer@yahoo.com

  36. leticia

    Muslims are always calling american’s evil and saying we are living in sin but most arab men are nothing but nasty pigs. They don’t respect woman, only lust after them and use them for sex. Why does one men even need more than one wife? It has nothing to do with making a family bond stronger, it only allows muslim men to be whores that prey on weak minded woman.

    • Ahmad

      Your are truely right. This kind of “marriage” is actually a cultural act only practiced in Middle Eastern countries. It got nothing to do with Islam as there is no mention of it in Quaran.

    • anjum

      ok, second marriage will facilitate the men in the days of mensus & pregnancy. afterall following are obligatory to men beforesecond marriage
      *be able to have sex
      *be able to afford the expenses of his wife.

      • Cat

        To bad you don’t consider the devastating effects of this on your wife or children. I think men who do this deserve nothing but misery.

  37. aboud

    hi , am living in jeddah.looking for real marriage with a saudi girl. plz contact me if some one is interested.

  38. gladiator

    salaamwalakom
    i just have to comment about the people who have left numbers and emails for misyar, sad very sad

    • nikki

      no bro, shameless and desperate comes to mind , need pointing in their mother and sister direction, astagfirullah, shaitaan people

  39. A citizen

    Misyar marriages or Pleasure marriages are endorsed in Islamic Jurisdiction-Of course they are inhumane and treat women like sexual objects, but still they have been practiced by Muhammed himself and his followers since dawn of Islam. Islam allows a man to have sex not only with four wives, who can be renewable, but also have sex with female concubines, which is again what Muhammed himself did.

    • FAS Syed

      Is this meyar is legal as per Islamic / Saudi law. Pls explain.
      FAS Syed

    • muslim

      which citizen you are? mind your language especially while taking the name of the Prophet. you Asshole.

    • HMH

      A citizen – before accusing people (or prophets ) of Misyar please state your proof. It is improper to throw around accusations and insults of people and their culture/values without firm proof and as for the matter of concubines – it was a common practice at the time of Mohammed and all civilizations around that it – this was not unique to Muslims (read history please).

      As for Misyar – I am completely against it as I feel it is a form of abuse to the women – even if they are rich women and they think they don’t need/want anything from the man. God who has created us has given us clear guidelines on what is the union of marriage and its expectations as well as responsibilities. The prophet actually shrived against the people in his society in order to abolish this pre-Islamic practice so as to give women rights and make men responsible for their women (see Muhammad – Karen Armstrong: p.145-147).

      And when people say that this is a practice encouraged by Islam – then they really need to do their research. There are prominent scholars that are against this type of marriage. They agree that outwardly, in terms of the contract it may be deemed valid but the consequences of this marriage is more harmful to the society as a whole. Anyone familiar with Islamic ruling and the principles that govern it will know that if the harm outweighs the benefits then it should be avoided. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_Misyar)

      If people are opting for Misyar due to costs of dowry or large weddings etc then they need to find a marriage partner who is willing to live with them within their means. But in most cases it is not about the money but its about lust and irresponsibility. God knows what is concealed in the hearts, so brothers and sisters, be God conscious and do not transgress the limits He has set, for truly the day will come when you will be accounted for your deeds. Do not sale you hereafter for few moments of pleasure in this world .

  40. Edson (Pele)

    I am the greatest soccer player ever. I want to play in Saudi Arabia!!

  41. Sameer Khan

    I am looking for misyaar marriage here in England.
    Any araab woman????

  42. Sameer Khan

    I am looking for misyaar marriage here in North West England.
    Any woman interested????

    sameerkhan35@live.com

  43. Arab

    May Allah curse all men who are seeking mysiar here… stupid asian men leaving their numbers thinking saudi girls would marry them, I say get a life losers lol

  44. Ajmal Shah

    If it is in KURRAN then it is legal,i want some some for this marriage,a divorcee or a widower aged from 25 to 40… my mail is ajmalgillani at yahoo dot com,Please help give my name to some one so she has a man in her life too.
    Ajmal Shah

  45. Muhammad Amjad

    I am Muhamamd Amjad from Pakistan. Misyar is a great sin and is a Zina. I hope God will give us Hidayat.

  46. Dr Ahmed

    Reading comments so far would give a mixed bag opinion about misyar marriage with pros and cons ideas to a common man. God has craeated mankind to do the right thing what His books say and Misyar system is a totally abused one where people practice for pleasure with some legal aid and it’s totally unacceptable. Think if it were your sisters and daughters in their position and will you allow misyar on them by men? It’s an act of prostitution and it’s not an exageration and must be banned fom the soceity for ever.

  47. multi- talented

    Dear all,

    It appears that a lady wanted to discuss and or debate the issue of misyar marriages and Pakistani men think that its an opportunity to get to sleep with Saudi women, and so leave their numbers.
    Misyar marriages were developed in order to allow women to enjoy intimacy with a man in a society that has its head buried in the sand. 70% of saudi marriages end in divorse and a lot of the remainder either endure multiple marriages or husbands that stray in Dubai, cairo, lebanon or any where else they go. Saudi women are disadvantaged by the law and in tribal culture. The only solution is to have a marriage that she can get out of when she needs other wise she should suffer in silence……..

  48. Dr Ahmed

    In reply to multi-talented, the misayr marriage in this context is a false protection to a woman because she can have a husband but not kids and there is a stipulated time window after which the so called husband has the right to leave her and go for ever! How can it be solemnised as “marriage” and one has to give a different unpollitical word for these acts.

  49. ali

    Hi,I am Ali (Pakistani),31 years….I am based in Dammam and interested in Misyar Marriage.Any lady,,,,widow or divorced if really interested,,,,,contact me….

  50. ali

    Hi,I am Ali (Pakistani),31 years….I am based in Dammam and interested in Misyar Marriage.Any lady,,,,widow or divorced if really interested in true relations,,,,,contact me….,,,

  51. ali

    Hi,I am Ali (Pakistani),31 years….I am based in Dammam and interested in Misyar Marriage.Any lady,,,,widow or divorced if really interested,,,,,contact me…..my email is ……saqibsaki1@yahoo.com

  52. Waqar

    I believe it is a new way adopted by Wahabis to wrap their sexual lust in Islam. They have done this since the age of Wahabddin who tried to destablised Islamic teachings just to please Al Saud tribe. These Wahabis are using the name of Islam to promote their ill and psychic nature which is very close to animals. To confirm my analysis please read the histories of Wahabuddin and Al Saud Family.
    May Allah destroy these Kafir Wahabis. Ameen

  53. kelly

    HALAL PROSTITUTION ( SHOULD B THE REAL NAME)

  54. Aamir (Pakistan)

    I wonder how our Muslim brothers are interested in a contract that implicitly leads to prostitution. A simple rule should be “any way or practice that leads to haraam is haraam”, Allah knows better. Second, we should ask our hearts whether they are satisfied despite our so called Ulemas’ rulings because only we’re to be answerable for our deeds on the day of judgement. May Allah guide us on a right path (aameen).

  55. I can’t believe this act of prostitution is legal and practiced in saudi arabia. Horrible, there is no such (misyar) thing is Islam, marriage is the only valid relation between man and a woman.
    Allah says in surah Al-Nisa verse 24
    “Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.”

    I’m shocked Saudis are not following Quran, dont they understand it. Im very upset after reading this. (O Allah, keep us on the right path)

  56. Awad

    What is wrong with getting into a Misyar Marriage ? I would like to find a Saudi Woman whom I could proof that man can take care and respect also divorced women. In particular when you are a foreigner without Saudi roots it is so difficult to find an honest contact. I am from Germany ( muslim) and so this way of marriage could help to get into the local sociaty. Any Woman from Jeddah interested in details can contact me by mail: niceplanet at web.de

  57. :) )

    • Ain

      "Maybe I missed the meeting when we all decided that the work of patrolling fascist incitement should be assigned solely to this country's various Jewish community groups."I think I missed that meeting, too. Time to bring back the slogans "an injury to one is an injury to all" and "all for one and one for all".

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  58. Yaser

    May ALLAH show us the right path, Ameen.

  59. simone Iberlin

    i have a friend who has 2 children and now she has 2 children from a misyar but there was no contract or verbal agrement of any kind she is divorced from her 2nd ex husband and met this saudi man while in saudi arabia in riyadh he has stopped carring for her and the children three of her children are american and one is not she want to leave because the marriage was a sham he has another wife and children as well. she says she is going to leave with all 4 children without him knowing it if she can because she met this saudi man on the run with 2 of her children after her ex husband left her there in saudi arabia and nver came back what should she do?

  60. Atif

    I really am upset after reading this article . Marrying is not like a contract , it is the matter of love , life etc.
    What is this ? what’s wrong with the people ?

    Allah please show us the right path- amen

    • sunnisis

      dear brother what else would you expect from the saudis ????

  61. jut

    if any saudi lady intrested contact me

  62. irshad sheikh

    i think this kind of marriage has no place in islamic society.these kind of man and woman may be honest to each other but not to the people where they are hiding their relationships.
    in america and european continent people may live under common law or domestic partnership where they are not hypocrat in their actions toward the society.
    islam does not direct to have hypocratic relations with any muslim or non muslim.
    so in saudi arabia they should prohibit such marriages, if they can not,then what american and europeans are doing wrong.

    irshad sheikh 03/03/2012

  63. areef

    Fluent english

  64. Arif

    Dear Brothers & Sisters…

    Lot of misconception about Islam and marriage as per Sharia law. Islam teaches us that marriage make couples bond with legal relationships, not like western countries, where men are sleeping daily with different women and even living without marriage too. Ignore the silly comments from western people, who always disrespect the religion of peace and prosperity.

  65. Simone

    Wow! What a debate! I invite you all to consider what God says about marriage in the Bible, that a man will leave his parents and join his wife (one wife, that is). That a man will love his wife the same way Jesus loves his people – he died for them as a sacrifice to take away the shame of sin and give them honor and peace with God. And the wife is to respect her husband the leader of their home.

    Arif, the secular men of the west sleeping with women violate God’s ways for sex as do Muslim men marrying more that one wife, having a misyar wife, or sleeping with a woman ‘his right hand possesses’. The only difference I see between these men is that usually the non-religious western men don’t pretend God approves of their sexual sins but the Muslim men do.

  66. Ashraf Ali

    Say: O disbelievers! I worship not that which ye worship; Nor worship ye that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which ye worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. QURAN 109:1-6

    The bible has been CHANGED and the Quran is the TRUTH whether YOU Christian SIMONE believe it or not

    • Simone

      Dear Ashraf Ali,
      You say that the Bible has been changed? Astaghfurallah! May God forgive this blasphemy.

      If the Bible has been changed, then this means that people are stronger than God. God promises to keep His word. Once He gives His word, He protects it. As a Muslim, don’t you believe that God gave the Torah (Books of Moses), the Zabur (Psalms of David) and the Injeel (the Gospel of Jesus Christ)? Then who changed it? Why was it changed? And where is the unchanged original, since we know God protects His revelations?

      We have many copies of the Bible, in the original Hebrew and Greek, from before Muhammad’s birth. They have the same meaning as my modern English translated Bible. And the Bible includes the Jewish Scriptures (Torah and Prophets), and they read the same as the Scriptures of modern Jews who do not believe in the Injeel or Jesus as Messiah. Yet they confirm that the Christian Old Testament is the same as their Scriptures. So do you propose that Jews and Christians of numerous different denominations all conspired together to change God’s Word? When did this happen? Before or after Muhammad’s birth?

      The Bible is the truth of God, Jesus is the Word of God, our sacrifice, our Adha, to make us clean and give us peace with God. I sincerely wish you the blessings and peace of God.

      • Ashraf Ali

        All praise and thanks be to Allah, Lord of mankind and all that exsists.
        I testify their is no god worthy of worship in truth except Allah, alone, without partner and I testify that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is his slave and Messenger.

        To proceed:

        Dear Simone, I admit I was a bit harsh to you; sorry.
        I mean, like none of us are perfect, right?
        So..you either gonna believe in my prophet (Muhammad) – peace be upon him or disbelieve in him. Right?

        That’s the one thing it boils down to. Right?

        Allah has commanded the muslims in the qur’an to say, which means:
        Say (O Muslims), “We believe in Allâh and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibrâhim (Abraham), Ismâ’il (Ishmael), Ishâque (Isaac), Ya’qûb (Jacob), and to Al-Asbât [the twelve sons of Ya'qûb (Jacob)], and that which has been given to Mûsa (Moses) and ‘Iesa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islâm).” (Al-Baqarah 2:136)

        So the difference between us and you firstly, is that you do the trinity thing whereas we worship Allah alone without applying to him an image, partner or associate; wether that be of a man, statue, etc.

        Rather we say: The Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you mates from yourselves, and for the cattle (also) mates. By this means He creates you (in the wombs). There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer. (Ash-Shura 42:11)

        Secondly, a difference between us, is the belief in the Prophet Muhammad – peace be upon him
        Allah said in his noble book, which means: Muhammad (peace be upon him) is not the father of any man among you, but he is the Messenger of Allâh and the last (end) of the Prophets. And Allâh is Ever All­Aware of everything. (Al-Ahzab 33:40

        So Dear Simone, let me tell you..
        I am passionate about my religion and you seem to be passionate about yours. Hate me not for my mistakes but rather discover the respect I have for Jesus as a Muslim and how my faith honours him, respects him and reveres him:
        http://www.islamjesus.ws

        May God Bless YOU oh Simone and peace to YOU.

        So long.

        Ashraf Ali.

  67. Moazabra

    Assalamualaikum,
    i really want to know in personal the women that need a man to talk, a man become her friend, her lover and become her husband. We have to know each other and look and take time whether we are suitable or not. If everyting ok we can go to the other step.

  68. Olola Dasco

    God in his wisdom gave us holy laws and conditions to guide mankind, but unfortunately we mankind out of our selfish and lustful desires have been looking and devices ways of circumvent God’s law. Weather permitted by mankind or otherwise, is it permitted by God? Shame on mankind

  69. I’m glad Saudi Woman laid out baldly some of the reasons why misyar marriages exist within the Muslim believers.

    Actually if any relationship is “secret” / woman has less rights in the eyes of society, it’s just wrong. Sorry. Don’t convince me otherwise why would China banned polygamy, bigamy. Thank God. Now it’s left with the history of courtesans in its artwork, literature. Not much different folks, those women were for the pleasure of men when first wife (or 2nd wife) wasn’t satisfactory. There’s centuries of literature on jealousies, intrigue, marital discord when there are multiple women in a guy’s life.

    I would agree with Simone, people who aren’t married/married and have another person outside of their marriage, don’t pretend it’s sanctioned by God at all in North America.

  70. Haroon

    Well, I am from Pakistan. If the scholars let it happen I belive the cotract of Marriage itself is legal both religiously and by law however, the purpose of this marriage is totally different and contained – if a woman agrees to such an offer she is not comitting Zina as all the conditions for a valid Marriage are served provided she’s understood the scope of this marraige. It’s what you decide and chose – yes, it’s fraud and invalid if you are missold or lied to. Please do not render it as Zina.

  71. Haroon

    Those who oppose it – I ask you two options to choose from.

    A. I make a girl friend – we have a secret relationship – we cohabitate and comitt fornication – nobody else but Allah knows it.
    B. I choose a woman – offer her to get married to me – tell select relatives of that woman and my side – register this on standard format with the government and the clergy and duly clarify the woman that she would have to give up certain rights and previleges compared to other wives. Upon her agreement and that of the court, clergy, God, relatives we live together and have relationship.

    Which one sounds better? No Bias.

  72. Haroon

    http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/misyar-marriages-gain-popularity-among-saudis-1.238221

    Now follow the above link and read what schollar say about it. Now quit being a scholar yourself. If this thing is really valid and is implemented propelry – most of the youth in muslim countries could get rid of vices such as fornication and illegal sexual activities. ..

    …only Allah knows the best!

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