The Arab Revolution’s effect on Saudis

With what’s going on right now in Yemen, Jordan, Syria, Tunis and Egypt, I get a lot of questions about how Saudis are taking it and what’s the reaction. The short answer is they are shocked and captivated but haven’t made up their minds about any of it.

The long answer is Saudi Arabia is a country where 40% of the population is under 14 years old, unemployment is rampant and the conservative religious approach is the key to the majority. These three ingredients are a dangerous mixture and add to that the now available social media tools and you have a bomb waiting for detonation. So why has nothing happened?

We have been faced with defeat over the last three generations. First it was with the Ottoman’s and I can’t tell you the countless times I’ve heard stories about how my great-grandparents generation faced off with the Turks in Qaseem. There are even walls still standing with bullet holes from then. Then my grandparents’ generation faced the creation of Israel. Every family knows a Palestinian refugee or had someone in their family killed or injured, my own grandfather was maimed in 1948 when Israeli forces bombed the hospital he was being treated at. Then my parents’ generation witnessed the fall of Jamal AbdulNaser’s high hopes and grand plans. After that every country in the region had its own version of dictatorship and people suppression evolve so that in the end you had different countries with different names but all sharing the same tactics and the same system. People have lost hope in being represented politically and have adapted and figured out other ways to move forward in life.

This is the context and the lenses through which our young people are watching what’s going on in the region. And this is why that the fact that there was an uprising is not as important as the aftermath of that uprising.

They are watching, though. All over the country, all these Saudis who rarely watch or read the news and their only interests in doing so are for more local social openness or conservativeness (depending on their background), are now carefully observing what’s going on in neighboring countries. Saudis who didn’t know what the channel number for AlJazeera News was on their receivers now have it saved on their favorites list. University and high school students are now watching the news and social media feeds in their study breaks instead of a rerun of Friends. It’s a new atmosphere. The thing lacking is analysis or a discussion on what it means for us.

The only tangible effect is more outspokenness in their criticism of how the Saudi government was ill-prepared for the Jeddah floods. In just three days from the first Friday after the floods to last Sunday, there were one hundred and ten opinion pieces in Saudi newspapers condemning what happened and criticizing how the government handled things. Also Shiekh Salman Al Ouda broadcast an unprecedented episode of his MBC show where he spoke about how the government must listen to Saudi’s demands for more transparency and spoke highly of the movements in Tunis and Egypt. And then Ali Al Olayani, a popular TV presenter also dedicated a frank and brave show where YouTube videos uploaded by citizens in Jeddah were shown. And the most recent were reports of protesters in Jeddah and some being arrested and there was even a video that was taken down a day later of the protest where you can see men and women marching down a Jeddah street.

We are only at the beginning and the only thing that has been determined is that Arabs are fed up and that we won’t back down.

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65 responses to “The Arab Revolution’s effect on Saudis

  1. Thank you for sharing. Looking forward to reading more.

  2. Saudis are still watching Friends?

  3. Taghreed

    Thumbs up to that Eman. But I think ppl are aware of what’s happening and they’re analysing it, some are voicing it, some r holding it off. Yet, they all share the fear of ” aftermath”! We have a very complex social structure in which different tribal and ideological streams are rooted. Things that are complicated enough to throw anyone into an endless confusion.

  4. Stop the arab fascists leaders saudia kings give the land
    back to the people, your day’s are counted.

    Peace greeting Rachid

  5. The wind of change has started to blow through the Arab world. I don’t think there will be major changes in Saudi now, but it may pave the way for changes in the (near) future.

  6. samira

    I am with you all even though I sit in Toronto!

  7. fionna

    A really fascinating read, I have spent time in Palestine and Sinai but have never been to Saudi. It would seem that the Arab world is undergoing its own “Enlightenment project” at the moment. But what took hundreds of years in the west can be communicated in minutes because of modern technology.

  8. abdul

    for the sake of our beautifull DEEN.and the savety and future of saudi people.
    the house of al saud needs to get thair acts together soooooooooon ,

  9. Amen,Al Saudi should re-think and start listen to us and care of their minorities (women,Shia,foreigners)
    Also,they should start taking less money from oil and less houses outside SA and acknowledge poverty and unemployment,cause they do exist!

  10. thinkingmunky

    Eman, I just found this blog and it’s so good to finally get this side of the Saudi story as well!
    Being a Romanian, having lived under a dictator, having been on the streets of the revolution in 1989 and then having observed the aftermath for the past 20 years, I understand perfectly what you are saying with this : “People have lost hope in being represented politically and have adapted and figured out other ways to move forward in life”
    It’s not going to be easy at all and it’s not going to be quick to find a governing democratic model that suits the Arab world. It wasn’t easy & quick in the West either.

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  12. This is so exciting at the moment, it may be a turning point in world’s history and altough I’m watching all this violence in Egypt I still have an optimistic feeling about it …

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  14. in my opinion,true reform can only come from the people… i am not against my government or al saud. the biggest challenge i think is making the people realize that they hold the ultimate power when it comes to their politics, society and daily life, not the government, religion, or any other institution. this being said, power will never step back until its faced with greater power, even then the people who are in control will fight really hard to keep their power therefore,
    in order to bring true reform we need the following:

    organized movement that is composed by young people who truly love their country and will bring change “by any means necessary”

    to focus on certain reforms ( labor regulation, human rights,wealth distribution, etc… ) rather than focusing on toppeling down the country.

    the question is: are the saudi people willing to t bring about the change? Are there such saudis who are willing to risk everything for their country? i for one am. there has never been a bloodless revolution… and its time for us to realize that freedom is the “most expensive luxury”.

    • Ulrich Eggert

      You are right, hakami, except for one issue – there has been a bloodless revolution: in eastern Germany – then German Democratic Republic – in 1989. It all depends upon if the leaders are concerened about the fate of their fading power rather than that of their country and its people. As one soldier in Cairo put it last week: “I’ll take off my uniform rather and shoot myself before I shoot at my own people.”
      I really wish you, your country and its people luck!

      • Amil

        The only thing is only Saudis who are facing all that suffering can liberate themselves against their business men(monarch). So this will happen because people are not affraid of dying for a cause. Don’t expect america to come for your aide as they are only concern with who they are making business with and you only saudis are getting ripped off while watching. So something has to be done because there is no place in this world for cowards. May Allah bless all his suffering people in this world.

    • Exactly Hakami, Saudi citizens are not yet ready for this change, many people are still conservative about sensitive issues, and would rather have them stay as is, this revolution WILL change traditions that many people want to stay still. Can you honestly imagine overthrowing the Royal Family to install democracy being the same? Of course not! I myself support the idea of having the Royal Family still having absolute monarchy while ALSO fixing Saudi Arabian issues.

  15. Hello, I read your article re-posted on Susie’s blog and I just wanted to tell you that I found it quite interesting.

  16. Harry Guggen

    One cannot compare Tunisia/Yemen/Egypt to Saudi Arabia. In Saudi, you can count dissidents on one hand. Sad to say, nothing will happen in Saudi.

  17. Lenka

    Dear Eman. I’ve been checking on your website frequently in the past days, because I was so curious to get a Saudi take on the Tunisian and Egyptian events. Thanks so much for the above post. Coming from Eastern Europe and having many Tunisian friends, I have to say we would have never ever suspected how quickly things can happen, neither in 1989, nor in 2011. Being an optimist, I bet with a friend (sorry I know betting is forbidden in Islam), that women will be able to drive in Saudi within 2 years time. What do you think???? Thanks again for the great blog, L.

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  19. Peace in Greece

    Eman
    you are banging drums on the destruction of arab countries, you are not getting enough of it but looking for more and more

    Eman

    it is easier to demolish than to rebuild

    Eman

    strong and united countries need to be handled in a way or ways that may not always satisfy all tastes and meet all interests

    Eman

    your current country is one of the most stablised countries in the world despite the variety of relegious tribal and educational tendencies ……
    too many ppl would dream of living or working in your current country

    request:

    Eman

    you may criticise freely all social economic aspects but i request you to keep away from political things that you are not qualified enough to anticipate, or be accountable for, their disasterous consequenses

    we are happy with our country as it is though perfection is only God’s

    thank you

    • Lenka

      Hi Peace in Greece, you must be male. I won’t even start analyzing your condescending remarks, your only excuse may be if you are seriously ill. And btw, in case you are Greek, please get your house in order first, because the rest of EU I belong to is not happy fixing problems you brought upon yourselves voting for corrupt politicians over and over again.

  20. nasaki bineshe

    You can’t put the genie out of the bottle once he is out. All you need is love. Its easy.

  21. nasaki bineshe

    You can’t put the genie back into the bottle once he is out. All you need is love. Its easy.

  22. Md. Azad Ali Shah

    How this monarchy rampant in only Arab world in 21st century? Are people so weak that some corrupt leaders rule and suppress entire population? 62% of world Muslims live in Asia but there is no single monarchic, Muslim country in Asia. Only 18% of world Muslim live in Arab region. But all these countries are monarchy or fake democracy on paper only.

    People can protest in front of Prime Minister office in India, they can write against Prime Minister if he is doing wrong things. Police can arrest Prime Minister, President if he is proved to be corrupt. Can any1 utter single word openly against a King in Arab countries?

    Let’s see from Islamic point of view too.
    In Islam there is no room for Monarchy. How can it be acceptable that a corrupt man will rule entire population and will suppress people’s freedom, rights and keep them under poverty? Is the system more Islamic under monarchy or so called fake democracy? There was ban on open loudspeaker Adhan from Masjids in Tunisia, Prostitution is legal but polygamy is illegal even when so many women cant find a husband(this is what a Muslimah from Tunisia told me), hijab in public job is banned. See in Morocco, Egypt there are bars, discotheques in every street. How can such a Muslim country better than non-Muslim country like India, Singapore where Muslim women proudly wear Hijab, allowed Adhan with loudspeaker? Muslims are allowed certain sharia law in these non-Muslim countries? Prime Minister of Singapore appologised to Muslim community just because his father wrote something against Islam in his book. There is no place for Salah in Casablanca International Airport but there is in UK Airports.

    The whole Arab should get insipiration from Tunisia and Egypt. Time has come to free every1 from monarchy and choose leaders by people of the country in completely democratic way. Inshallah we will.

  23. im writing from turkey and im curious about what is the fucking deal between your laziness and the past turkish rulers in your country. you should be ashamed of comparing ottoman rulers and the israeli murderers!

    your rulers are at usa’s behest, strictly, that is the one and only reason why you cannot even move your fingers.

    look; arab people are my sisters and brothers, we are all the people of Muhammad(sav) and i seriously do not understand the anger between our nations. if you are fed up, and want a real change, first you should make a huge differance in your mentality, stop believing the formal history which is untrue and fallacious.
    you should be avare of the fact that the usa and his sassy child; israel want to make bad blood between muslim nations. this is how they twist the muslim countries round their fingers for all those years, they cant even exist if we stop believing their lies.

    please forgive the angry mode in my sentences but i’m fed up with these prejudgements. believe me that blind nationalism is the greatest illness and i guess i cant stand just watching, we need to cure it immediately.

    anyway, here in turkey, we are as excited as you are at least. may god bless you all and give the courage you need along the path of victory!
    finally; i hope you learn the history from more objective sources.

    salaam aleykum from ankara, turkey

  24. lark

    Eman I admire your bravery and clear judicious insight. Thank you.

    I accept that this is a wave of revolt in the Arab world but I think it has world wide implications. People are refusing to let the masters of the world economy strip them of hope, a future, and useful work.

    • Alicia

      Lark,
      Let’s hope the revolution reaches the U.S.A where many of the masters live and plot their evil deeds. The Gov. of Wisconsin was thinking about using the national guard against protesters there. I’d like to think he didn’t because of a fear of being compared to middle east dictators. I’ve heard tale that people there are starting to change the debate from “why do public workers have it so good?” to “why do private workers have it so bad?” The proponents of free market capitalism have been responsible for mayhem worldwide due to their success in squashing the unity of the people, both abroad and at home, whose best interests are not served by their policies. Maybe real change is on the way? The people, united, will never be defeated.

  25. the question is it even possible for saudi arabia to have a revolution of its own and without outside interference? let not forget that saudi has almost 25% of the worlds oil…

    @ peace in greece: its true that saudi is pretty stable when you compare it to other countries in the middle east, but that has nothing to do with the government. in fact, the system is the only thing that holding back the our society. i sincerly believe that saudi arabia should be the richest country in the world in terms of gdp per capita. but how can it be when shiekhs are issueing fatwas about economic activities and policies. or when you limit the job opportunity for a significant proportion of saudi arabians (WOMEN) and thus limiting growth of our economy. or when you spend billions of riyals funding a huge influx of cheap labour that have limited rights as human beings and denied citezenship, which will only help in exporting the wealth, that all these projects and foreign investments generate, to foriegn labours and reinforce the idea that a saudi arabian is somewhat better than others and therefore should not engage on menial jobs like construction.

    Saudi Arabia is one of the few countries that have budget Surplus, a huge one if i may add. but this should not be credited to the government it should be accredit to oil and to saudi engineers and companies that are extracting it. you dont need a lot of government when dealing with and economy, the economy will take care of itself for the most part. theres no need to distort markets with fatwas or policies that are not effecient.

    But thats Saudi for you… HUGE BUDGET SURPLUS BUT NO DRAINAGE SYSTEM!!

  26. Mary

    This was going to happen in the ME sooner or later, all the rulers kings,shaikhs knew it but did not know when. The time has come now, it can turn into a total chaos or total bless, we can only wait and see.
    I agree people had enough and all they needed was a little push which sparked a light and there they will you go.

  27. SmurfBurkan

    Nothing is ever gonna happen i KSA… Some days after the protests started in Egypt I asked my husband if any Muslim scholar had said anything about this. My husband could only remember that Shaykh Hassan from Egypt urged the people not to attack the christians… But I waited, and I waited… and finally there came a “fatwa”!

    Naturally it came from the Mufti of KSA and he said that the people’s demonstration “only caused fitnah”… This was EXCACTLY what I expected to hear from NONE OTHER than the saudi scholars… and I think that the Saudi Mufti with his fatwa causes more fitnah in the Muslim nation than any demonstrations calling for justice and abolishment of opression.

    • Alicia

      Isn’t it fitnah to make the police, those who would normally serve to protect the public, into the brutal arms of a dictator who sets the people against each other? Doesn’t it harm the souls of the men who are commanded to torture the innocent? Isn’t it fitnah to make people choose whether to support a corrupt regime or be tortured and perhaps killed?

      • SmurfBurkan

        Exactly my point… And when so called Muslim scholars and authorities directly or indirectly support these regimes… then isn’t that the biggest fitnah?

  28. Sameena

    Thank you Eman for giving us this glimpse into how this is unfolding is SA. Lets hope that the wishes and aspirations of the Arab world dont get defeated the way they did in Nasser’ times. Best wishes for the Arab world and for SA!

  29. Alicia

    I just happened to be reading Noam Chomsky’s Deterring Democracy when the revolution happened. It’s a little chilling to read this book and listen to American officials as innocent Egyptians are gunned down in the street by their own government. May God mercy them. http://chomsky-must-read.blogspot.com/2008/03/dd-overview.html

    • Tamar

      Well, first Noam Chomsky is a communist stirring the the pot of angst in America trying desperately to have Americans believe that America attacked itself. If that is true, then they went to Afghanistan and Pakistan and pulled in some angry Iranian and anti-SA’ians to do their dirty work under the guise of jihad.

      Americans are very, very aware of the difference between the Iranian people and the Iranian government. The government that uses Nazi influences to accomplish their goals no only in Iran but Lebanon and South Africa , Afghanistan and Pakistan in beating the drums of extremism.

      It is the hope of every American that extremism will be dumped and defeated for the good of the world! I can assure you Noam is seeking the rise of extremism through blame baiting with propaganda.

      The only imperialism America seeks is that every man woman and child have the opportunity of self determination in life, work religion and thought as well as expression. That is the goal and will of the people. As we all know governments have their own vision apart from its citizens. The US has made many errors, no doubt, but there is no nation that is blameless. The greatest mistake was overthrowing only dictators where US interest was high. If they were in the overthrow business they should have rated them by their atrocities and not economic interest, for which you can thank the deMAOcRat party, which has subscribed to communism outright and good old Noam is leading that ugly crusade! Be wary of those who speak about social justice, because they desire the very opposite and their only goal is to inflame hostility!

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  31. FeFe

    Strange that Saudi’s consider the “creation of Israel” as being “faced with defeat”. I would think siding with Hitler as the Grand Mufti did would provide more fear and shame. You mention the injuries to family from Jews but history tells it was the Jews who were forcibly expelled from Arab nations while Arabs left Israel of their own free will and wishes of their leaders prior to their starting the wars. And while you don’t subscribe intent to the bombed hospital, it seems evil is implied. However, Israel is the one representative democracy in the region — Arabs, Persians, etc., all muslims have a vote there and are represented politically with successful office holders. How can you wonder at the lack of “analysis or a discussion on what” revolution in Egypt and North Africa mean for you in the face of such intellectual incoherence at best.

    I am American but not Jewish or very religious or politically active, and would most likely think of myself as those young Saudis you mention who find the extraordinary events of the day turning them to the news to be better informed. Your blog offers that but it is so odd that even you, a Saudi with the love of western freedoms, still holds to the discredited notion that Israel is reason for terrorism, and that America deserves no goodwill for giving money to everyone. Do you really think you will enjoy One World Marxism?

  32. JOE DIAZ

    TIME FOR REVOLUTION IN SA

  33. Sameena

    Thrilled to see Mubarak leave Egypt. EMan, please post the rxn in SA. I cant wait to hear about it.

  34. KVKS CHOUDARY, HYDERABAD

    SAUDI RULERS HAVE EXPORTED JIHADIS, FINANCED ANTI NATIONAL ACTIVITIES MISUSED THEIR MONEY FANNING TROUBLE IN THE NAME OF RELIGION, ALL FOR THE PURPOSE OF DIVERTING THE SAUDI PEOPLE FROM THEIR OWN PLIGHT.
    9/11 WAS ESSENTIALLY MANNED BY SAUDI ZEALOTS, AL QUEIDA WAS BORN & BRED WITH SAUDI MONEY, IRAQI INVASION WAS BLESSED AND FINANCED BY SAUDI RULERS.
    WHAT DID ALL THIS DO TO THE COMMON SAUDI PEOPLE – THEY HAVE NO FREEDOM AT HOME AND ABROAD THEY ARE SUSPECT. SAUDI PEOPLE CAN REGAIN THEIR DIGNITY AND RESPECT ONLY WHEN THEIR COUNTRY IS FREE AND THEIR GOVT. STOPS FANNING TROUBLE ELSE WHERE.

  35. Md. Azad Ali Shah

    @KVKS CHOUDARY, HYDERABAD ,

    I agree ur points except one thing.
    I think u know the meaning of jihad..terrrorists are not jihadists

    • Ulrich Eggert

      This interests me tremendously. Could anyone enlighten a stupid Westerner, please, about the real meaning of jihad (just as Eman Al Nafjan has enlightened me in this blog about the real background of Wahabi)?

  36. Md. Azad Ali Shah

    @Hyderabadi,

    I am not sure if u are from Pakistan Hyderabad or Indian Hyderbad, whatever….Kindly have a look what is Jihad here:

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/09/0925_TVkoran.html

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/09/0925_TVkoran_2.html

    We have seen –
    The quest to control basic instincts such as greed, lust, and cruelty and to seek spiritual purity is known by Muslims as the “great jihad.” Featured widely in the Koran, the “great jihad” is a person’s most important internal struggle.

    So,

    1. U control ur biological desire and don’t harm a woaman illegally
    2. U try not to hear bad things
    3. U try not to see bad things
    4. U try not to speak bad things
    5. U try not to do bad things

    These are also Jihad but not only self-defence(I will not say war here)

    And finally, once again:-

    “Human life in Islam is extremely sacred,” says Khouj. “We’re not talking about just Muslim [life], but human life in general.”

    But, if people misuse religion, what is the falt of religion??
    Culprit will rott in hell.

    • Ulrich Eggert

      @ Md. Azad Ali Shah
      While trying to enlighten KVKS Choudary in Hyderabad, be it Pakistan or India, you have really enlightened me in Hamburg, Germany. Thank you very much, indeed!

  37. Md. Azad Ali Shah

    Hi Ulrich Eggert,

    Thanks for ur time and its nice to learn that u get some idea from my posts.
    Kindly feel free to ask any questions on Islam if you have doubts..be it women torture in Islam as u hear in world media hahaha.
    or whatever. I will try to clear as much as I can even though I am nt Islamic scholar🙂

    Well let me share some more info for Hyderabadi:

    IS TERRORISM ALLOWED?

    Let’s analyse it with some Quranic and Hadith verses:-

    1. The Prophet(pbuh) said:
    ‘A Muslim would neither abuse nor speak bad words to, nor curse others.’(Sahih Muslim)

    2. Can Muslim disrespect, harm and steal from Non-Muslim?
    http://www.zawaj.com/askbilqis/is-it-okay-for-muslims-to-disrespect-and-steal-from-non-muslims/

    3. God does not love wrongdoers” (3:140)

    4. “As for those cause mischief in the earth, the curse will be upon them.
    They will have the Evil Abode.” (13:25)

    5. Does Islam asks to attack other religion?

    a) I worship not that which you worship, Nor will you worship that which I worship.
    And I will not worship that which you have been wont to worship, Nor will you
    worship that which I worship, So you be your Way, and to me mine.(109:1-6)

    b) Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever
    rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the mosttrustworthy hand-hold,
    that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth allthings.(2:256)

    6. Quran says to do justice and not to support even ur parents and urself

    “O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as
    against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich
    or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest
    ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is
    well-acquainted with all that ye do.” (4:135).

    7. Islam says abt Humanity – Killing an innocent life is same as killing
    whole humanity and saving 1 life is same as saving whole humanity

    a) “If anyone slew a person—unless it be for murder or spreading mischief in the
    land—it would be as if he slew the whole people. And if anyone saved a life, it
    would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”(5:32)

    b) “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and
    made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye
    may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is
    (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full Knowledge and is well-
    acquainted (with all things).” (49:

    8. Even in War, Islam says to fight only Army not
    innocents,women,children,old people

    a) “Do not kill women or children or non-combatants and do not kill old people or
    religious people,” and he mentioned priests, nuns and rabbis. And he said, “Do
    not cut down fruit-bearing trees and do not poison the wells of your enemies.”

    http://www.awesomelibrary.org/Muslims.html

    b) Do not kill any old person, any child or any woman… She was not fighting. How
    then she came to be killed? – Prophet Mohammed

    -Reported by Michael Young.

    http://www.islamfortoday.com/war.htm

    c) “Do not betray or be treacherous or vindictive. Do not mutilate. Do not kill the
    children, the aged or the women. Do not cut or burn palm trees or fruitful
    trees. Don’t slay a sheep, a cow or camel except for your food. And you will
    come across people who confined themselves to worship in hermitages, leave
    them alone to what they devoted themselves for.”

    http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996016532&pagename=IslamOnline-English-
    AAbout_Islam%2FAskAboutIslamE%2FAskAboutIslamE

    9. Is Suicide and Killing innocent in the name of Islam allowed?

    a) “Suicide is haram in Islam. It’s prohibited, like a mortal sin. And murder is haram. And to kill civilians is murder.”

    b) “The Prophet also said that there are people who kill in the name of Islam and go to hell.”

  38. Md. Azad Ali Shah

    Please feel to drop a mail at sheikhazad2@yahoo.com if any specific question is there that is not related to topic or if I am not able to explain you in this forum. I can not post certain things here with links due to wordpress’s restrictions.

    • Ulrich Eggert

      @ Md. Azad Ali Shah
      Thank you very much for your kind offer and your mail address! It’s not so much that I want to study Islam in detail but rather that I’m sick of having the islamic world “explained” by Western media. So I’m glad for any other source of information that I can get hold of.
      Btw: I like your statement “if people misuse religion, what is the fault of religion?” very much.

    • Alicia

      Would you have any comments on abrogation to share (especially the reliability of a story about a goat abrogating the verses about stoning being required for married adulterers)? I cannot reconcile with reason that God puts things in a book that you should not ignore (allowing people to make up their own minds) but takes out things you must do, (stoning adulterers). Also, if anyone knows, I am looking for some reliable literature (in english) on how rape is dealt with, or has been dealt with in Islam. Googling leads to too many sham anti-Islam pages. It’s too depressing for words.

      • Sandy

        @Alicia,
        What verses that require stoning for adulterers? There isn’t one.

      • Alicia

        Sandy,
        In response to the same argument, I was told a story that it was in the Quran but a goat ate the ayat. But the Prophet (pbuh) said stoning is still required. This sounds very suspicious to me.

  39. ali

    Honestly, I think revolutions of different scales have already begun in EVERY SINGLE country in the Middle East. The mentality has changed. The perceptions have changed. And, I see extreme restructuring happening soon.. like it or not.
    I also think that people of KSA should stop blaming Al Saud and start looking within themselves so that they may grow. I know very successful, self-made Saudis and I know Saudis who are losers.. The losers sit there and blame while the smart guys build their lives. Al Saud does not stop them from doing so.

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  43. As a Western-based and interested observer and commentator, I wonder if I could perhaps ascertain your readers views on a viewpoint and statement which emanates from, I am led to believe, the founder of your religion.
    This statement was made in cionnection with the Monastery of St. Catherine, and reads as follows:-

    The Promise to St. Catherine:
    “This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.

    Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by God! I hold out against anything that displeases them.

    No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses.

    Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.

    No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.

    No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).”

    If these words are indeed from your Prophet, how do you respond to the news stories regarding the attacks upon Coptic Christian monasteries in egypt?

    • Ulrich Eggert

      The founder of the Christian religion said: “If someone slaps you onto the left cheek, offer him also your right cheek” and “He who takes the sword will be killed by the sword”.
      If these words are indeed from our Prophet, how do we respond to all the news stories shouting “WAR” during the past thousand years, not to mention the past ten years?

    • Alicia

      My muslim household is saddened by and completely against these attacks.

  44. zaina

    All the knowledge you aquire is in the holy quran.muslims and cristians alike did not follow the teaching of God, because they refused the ones that God set for them as leaders.instead of taking the explanation of the scripture from them they did it on their own, up to their liking.all the hardship they are facing is of their deeds.
    justice has never been applied fully as God wanted it to.that’s why jesus is coming and it was known from the start, also almahdy.they will join efforts and by the power given by the all mighty God they shall fix the justice situation in the hole world.
    all of what we see from these miseries is our own work, and our fears what make us suffer longer.
    slow we are moving to the goal the ultimit change, and after paying the right price we shall reach.
    peace can not live without the soard of justice as long as satan is playing around in our soals.
    perfiction is self control that God wanted us to achieve in this life.
    it’s the real evolution to recreate our self to be higher rank than angles.

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  46. jasper

    Young Arabs Revolution – Khelè music

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